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Jade Stele
Jun 17 2009, 1:00 PM EDT
I'll be posting my spring finds soon. This is the biggest. More shots of it can be found by following the link below. We hope to be able to recover this one soon.http://s621.photobucket.com/albums/tt297/gamaliel114/DeerCreek/DEER%20CREEK5o613and1509/?albumview=slideshow ~Zeke Do you find this valuable?
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jakesrocks |
1. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 17 2009, 2:25 PM EDT
"I'll be posting my spring finds soon. This is the biggest. More shots of it can be found by following the link below. We hope to be able to recover this one soon.Hey Zeke, you have the advantage of being younger than most of us old goats. Just get some of your young friends to help retrieve that thing. A case of beer should be all the persuasion you'll need. Don Do you find this valuable? |
rockcandyguy |
2. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 17 2009, 9:31 PM EDT
Just tell me some particulars, Zeke, and I'll tell ya how to move it. We movethings larger than that all the time, lol. How far from your vehicle, what's the slope and ground surface like, how far to the nearest anchor point (a stout tree is good)? Rigging R us!Bob Do you find this valuable? |
retiredoldfogee |
3. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 17 2009, 9:59 PM EDT
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"Just tell me some particulars, Zeke, and I'll tell ya how to move it. We movethings larger than that all the time, lol. How far from your vehicle, what's the slope and ground surface like, how far to the nearest anchor point (a stout tree is good)? Rigging R us!Bob, I have a Jade boulder on dry land about 75 feet back in between some small 3 inch wide trees on a very minor incline propped inside other rocks, that is about 6 feet tall by 7 feet wide. Any idea how to get that bad boy out and onto a truck bed? and how much it might weigh? LOL. Zeke, I bet your bad boy can be dug out with a little elbow grease, and then use a hand truck (Make sure its got fairly large inflatable wheels, as deer creek is very rocky) to haul it unless that is only the top 10%. LOL. Aaron Thanks, Aaron Do you find this valuable? |
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jakesrocks |
4. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 17 2009, 10:55 PM EDT
"I'll be posting my spring finds soon. This is the biggest. More shots of it can be found by following the link below. We hope to be able to recover this one soon.I can see by the colors, why you want to haul that beast out. Just how big is that thing? When I clicked on full size, I could see that it seems to be expanding outward where it meets the ground. By the time you dig that thing out, you may need to hire a heavy lift helocopter and a rigger. Don Do you find this valuable? |
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gamaliel114 |
5. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 17 2009, 11:44 PM EDT
I'm guessing about two thirds of it are exposed, unless its just a knob on a larger boulder. I've thrown around several ideas on how to get it out. I'm liking the idea of a hand truck as Aaron suggested (which I have), and plywood to roll it across instead of directly over the ground. Then some rope and a come-a-long for the difficult areas (hills and such). I got three guys to help, just need to pick a date. Its hundreds of feet away from the parking area, the last bit up a steep trail that climbs 15-20 feet up the bank. I'm not sure how far away a big tree is, but it can't be too far for the come-a-long. The way out of the creek would be a little rocky, but mostly sandy.~Zeke Do you find this valuable? |
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rockcandyguy |
6. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 18 2009, 1:19 AM EDT
"Bob, I have a Jade boulder on dry land about 75 feet back in between some small 3 inch wide trees on a very minor incline propped inside other rocks, that is about 6 feet tall by 7 feet wide. Any idea how to get that bad boy out and onto a truck bed? and how much it might weigh? LOL.Aaron, the jade boulder is about 6 X 7 FEET? Assuming only 1 foot thick, it weighs almost 4 tons! ... more than you're gonna move with hand tools. Rent an excavator. FYI, pure nephrite weighs 186 lbs/cubic ft. Bob Do you find this valuable? |
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retiredoldfogee |
7. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 18 2009, 2:55 AM EDT
"Aaron, the jade boulder is about 6 X 7 FEET? Assuming only 1 foot thick, it weighs almost 4 tons! ... more than you're gonna move with hand tools. Rent an excavator. FYI, pure nephrite weighs 186 lbs/cubic ft.Wow, thanks for the information. 186 lbs/cubic foot. I suspected an excavator might be the only way. I also contemplated that a regular truck might not be sufficient to haul it so possibly I'd need a Dump Truck to haul it to be processed as well. Thanks for the good advice. Aaron Do you find this valuable? |
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gamaliel114 |
8. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 18 2009, 3:33 PM EDT
Bob, are you sure about that? It seems closer to 86 pounds. Of course I'm not wieghing "pure" nephrite, but I have three good sized boulders that are about a total of 1 cubic foot...and I'm useing a bathroom scale, but I can't believe I'd be off by 100 pounds.~Zeke Do you find this valuable? |
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gamaliel114 |
9. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 18 2009, 4:11 PM EDT
I did the math, I guess you're right. Those boulders amount to less than half a cubic foot. Eyeballing isn't a very good method!~Zeke Do you find this valuable? |
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rockcandyguy |
10. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 19 2009, 1:19 AM EDT
Eyeballing has deceived me too! Weight of a cubic foot of water is 62 lbs. Nephrite is 3.02 times heavier than water. Bob Do you find this valuable? |
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retiredoldfogee |
11. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 19 2009, 2:55 AM EDT
"I did the math, I guess you're right. Those boulders amount to less than half a cubic foot. Eyeballing isn't a very good method!Hi Zeke, you should seriously cut that stuff from the forest. Check out what it looks like ground, but not polished: http://cash-and-treasures-wiki.travelchannel.com/photo/6259687/Jade http://cash-and-treasures-wiki.travelchannel.com/photo/6259688/More+Jade... Aaron Do you find this valuable? |
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gamaliel114 |
12. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 19 2009, 2:28 PM EDT
Did you really cut those useing only your tile saw and a dremel? I've only used mine to cut windows into the stones so far. I decided to buy a 16" saw so I guess I'm just waiting for that to go through rather than trying to do it all on an old tile saw with a max cutting depth of 1.14"...but maybe I'm underestimating it. What do you use for coolant by the way? for the time being I've only been useing water, so have been taking it easy on the old thing...all my money I dumped into the 16 incher, so I don't want to have to replace a blade. Of course all my time is devoted to collecting right now as well, as it is the best time to hunt the creeks. But I think I'll cut into one today.~Zeke Do you find this valuable? |
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gamaliel114 |
13. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 19 2009, 2:37 PM EDT
Yeah. Instead of thinking of the volume as a cubic foot, I visualized 7.5 gallons...for some reason that was easier. Maybe because I used to work in a dairy case!~Zeke Do you find this valuable? |
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jakesrocks |
14. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 19 2009, 4:02 PM EDT
"Did you really cut those useing only your tile saw and a dremel? I've only used mine to cut windows into the stones so far. I decided to buy a 16" saw so I guess I'm just waiting for that to go through rather than trying to do it all on an old tile saw with a max cutting depth of 1.14"...but maybe I'm underestimating it. What do you use for coolant by the way? for the time being I've only been useing water, so have been taking it easy on the old thing...all my money I dumped into the 16 incher, so I don't want to have to replace a blade. Of course all my time is devoted to collecting right now as well, as it is the best time to hunt the creeks. But I think I'll cut into one today.Hey Zeke, for that 16" saw, you'll want to use a good quality cutting oil like Pella, Alum-Mag oil, or Lubri-Cool. I use the Lubri-Cool in my 16" saw. It's a bit expensive, but it's non toxic, non allergenic, and non staining. The stuff even works like a skin softener. When I'm doing a lot of cutting, I've got the softest hands in town. What ever you use, don't use plain water with that big blade. Don Do you find this valuable? |
syonix |
15. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 19 2009, 4:24 PM EDT
SIX BY SEVEN FEET?!Where is the photo of this bad boy? I have scowered the whole site and dont see any 7 foot jade rocks... holy crap. Do you find this valuable? |
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gamaliel114 |
16. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 19 2009, 4:46 PM EDT
Aaron hasn't posted any pictures of it yet.
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gamaliel114 |
17. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 19 2009, 4:51 PM EDT
"Hey Zeke, for that 16" saw, you'll want to use a good quality cutting oil like Pella, Alum-Mag oil, or Lubri-Cool. I use the Lubri-Cool in my 16" saw. It's a bit expensive, but it's non toxic, non allergenic, and non staining. The stuff even works like a skin softener. When I'm doing a lot of cutting, I've got the softest hands in town. What ever you use, don't use plain water with that big blade.I wouldn't dream of using plain water with it! Those blades are expensive. It'll be many weeks yet before I get the saw though. Right now I'm just playing around with an ancient tile cutter. Do you find this valuable? |
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syonix |
18. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 19 2009, 5:35 PM EDT
"Aaron hasn't posted any pictures of it yet."So i cant imagine how in the world you are going to move something that large.. I was googling and found this little tidbit .. wowow "The world’s biggest Imperial Jade boulder, 70 ft long and 35 ft in circumference is was discovered on New Year's Day of 2001 in the Hpakant Jade Mines and so far, it has not been raised to the surface. " holy crap! Do you find this valuable? |
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syonix |
19. RE: Jade Stele
Jun 19 2009, 5:38 PM EDT
http://www.jademine.com/jade_blog/uploaded_images/polar-pride-jpeg-708567.bmpDo you find this valuable? |
