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peadew97470
Pyrite
Jan 15 2008, 2:50 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 15 2008, 2:50 PM EST
How do I tell the difference between pyrite & gold? Any help would be appreciated! 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
pvjjh
pvjjh
1. RE: Pyrite
Jan 17 2008, 1:12 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2008, 1:12 PM EST
Pyrite is a cubic, and is usually yellow or tarnished yellowish crystals. If you can scratch it and it falls apart or if you rub it and it desintegrates or powders, then its not real gold. Mica will also do the same thing as does pyrite, however it is very light and not metallic. Gold will scratch or bend and will not be a cubic crystal. Here is a good link to see some pyrite samples.



http://www.mineralatlas.com/mineral%20photos/P/pyrite%20cp.htm



Hope this helps
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ibflippy
2. RE: Pyrite
Sep 7 2008, 5:06 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 7 2008, 5:06 AM EDT
ok.. here's a quick test you can do to determine if it's pyrite or gold. Shadow it with your hand and watch the difference in shine. Pyrite shines in sunlight, but not as much in shade. Gold will stay the same color. Hopes this helps :) 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

peadew97470
3. RE: Pyrite
Sep 8 2008, 12:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2008, 12:49 PM EDT
Thanks to everyone for all the good info! I do appreciate it, and I'm sorry to say, that I think all I have is pyrite! oh well...happy hunting!

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aubreyreynolds9@gmai
aubreyreynolds9@gmai
4. RE: Pyrite
Sep 8 2008, 1:36 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2008, 1:36 PM EDT
"Thanks to everyone for all the good info! I do appreciate it, and I'm sorry to say, that I think all I have is pyrite! oh well...happy hunting!

"
Interesting enough pyrite is sold in jewelry and is called by t stores as Marcasite. Marcasite is similar to pyrite but it is not chemically stable. When exposed to air and moisture it sometimes decays into sulfuric acid. It will destroy the specimens in a case. I have a friend who wrapped marcacite in jewelry and ruined the silver. Marcasite often has a sulfur smell and crumbles more easily than pyrite. Marasite is not used in jewelry despite the name in the jewelry store. The same is true of many gemstones. Sunstone is fieldspar but the "sunstone" name sounds more expensive. Jasper is a catch all term for impure silica from colored cherts to opaque chalcedony. Green turquoise is generally varasite and not turquoise. Colored quartz crystal has a half dozen jewelry names from amethysts to rose quartz. Jewelry stores often call banded calcite or aragonite "onyx". Although true onyx is a chalcedony often used to carve cameos. Believe it or not Jade is a name for two completely different minerals. All kinds of colorful names are given to gemstomes that have no relationship to what the stone is. There is paint rock, picture jasper, tanzanite, moonstone, blood stone, wonder stone, Picasso stone, petoskey stone, mozarite, pom pom agate, Mexican lace agate (which is not in the scientific sense of the term an agate at all)and the list goes on. So you see there is a lot of "Fools Gold" other than pyrite. Hope you find a wash bucket full of real gold.
Bill
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai
aubreyreynolds9@gmai
5. RE: Pyrite
Sep 8 2008, 1:56 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2008, 1:56 PM EDT
This is no doubt more information than you wanted, but there is another crystal structure that is not as common as the cube. It is the five sided pentagon on each crystal face. A cube as you know has a square on each crystal face. The pentagonal pyrite blew the socks off the ancient Greeks. Poor old Euclid could not explain the geometry. When they finally where able to construct a pentagon they found to their horror that a irrational number like the number pie (NOT APPLE) was needed to draw the pentagram. The number is called the Divine Ratio and appears over and over in nature from the spiral galaxies to the fossil ammonites shell. A Greek cult tried to keep this mathematical truth hidden. They promised to kill any one who told the truth. It was their teaching that the universe could be always expressed in whole rational numbers like 1. 2. 3 1/2 etc. This blew a hole in their theory and they were mad as you know what. I will post a pentagonal pyrite crystal I have.
Bill
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syonix
syonix
6. RE: Pyrite
Sep 8 2008, 2:16 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2008, 2:16 PM EDT
"Interesting enough pyrite is sold in jewelry and is called by t stores as Marcasite. Marcasite is similar to pyrite but it is not chemically stable. When exposed to air and moisture it sometimes decays into sulfuric acid. It will destroy the specimens in a case. I have a friend who wrapped marcacite in jewelry and ruined the silver. Marcasite often has a sulfur smell and crumbles more easily than pyrite. Marasite is not used in jewelry despite the name in the jewelry store. The same is true of many gemstones. Sunstone is fieldspar but the "sunstone" name sounds more expensive. Jasper is a catch all term for impure silica from colored cherts to opaque chalcedony. Green turquoise is generally varasite and not turquoise. Colored quartz crystal has a half dozen jewelry names from amethysts to rose quartz. Jewelry stores often call banded calcite or aragonite "onyx". Although true onyx is a chalcedony often used to carve cameos. Believe it or not Jade is a name for two completely different minerals. All kinds of colorful names are given to gemstomes that have no relationship to what the stone is. There is paint rock, picture jasper, tanzanite, moonstone, blood stone, wonder stone, Picasso stone, petoskey stone, mozarite, pom pom agate, Mexican lace agate (which is not in the scientific sense of the term an agate at all)and the list goes on. So you see there is a lot of "Fools Gold" other than pyrite. Hope you find a wash bucket full of real gold.
Bill
"
Bill you're scrambling my brain,
but thanks for the information, its always cool to hear.
I think that 3 inch wide vein Dan and I found at McCoy creek is Marasite as its very similar to pyrite, but smells very much like sulfur and is super crumbly. i only managed to snag a 8oz chunk because the damn stuff turns to gold dust glitter so much,
but hey i'm a fan of the rotten egg smell so..
Is marasite always yellowish in color or can it be silver? around this same area ive seen what looks like a copperish color mixed in with quartz crystals, or a silverish color mixed in as well as the classic yellowish color...
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai
aubreyreynolds9@gmai
7. RE: Pyrite
Sep 8 2008, 7:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2008, 7:35 PM EDT
"Bill you're scrambling my brain,
but thanks for the information, its always cool to hear.
I think that 3 inch wide vein Dan and I found at McCoy creek is Marasite as its very similar to pyrite, but smells very much like sulfur and is super crumbly. i only managed to snag a 8oz chunk because the damn stuff turns to gold dust glitter so much,
but hey i'm a fan of the rotten egg smell so..
Is marasite always yellowish in color or can it be silver? around this same area ive seen what looks like a copperish color mixed in with quartz crystals, or a silverish color mixed in as well as the classic yellowish color..."
Yes, marasite often has a less gold color and can be silvery brass color. But if is exposed ever long it will deteriorate. It gives water that rotten egg sulfur taste. Sometimes pyrite and marcasite are found together. A lady at the show we worked asked about a big chunk of pyrite she found. She said it smelled like death , ruined her curio cabinet and crumbled away. I told her it was not pyrie but marcasite. I have a piece or two but I keep it enclosed and away from other minerals. Some marcasite is not as unstable for some strange reason.
Bill
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai
aubreyreynolds9@gmai
8. RE: Pyrite
Sep 8 2008, 8:24 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2008, 8:24 PM EDT
Not to sound like a math nut. The golden ratio is not a number that can be written down. The best you can do is an approximation. Calculation it the numbers will go on and on and on forever. Here is golden ratio calculation for a few places.
1.61803398874989484820458683436563811772030917980576286213544862270526046281890
244970720720418939113748475408807538689175212663386222353693179318006076672635
443338908659593958290563832266131992829026788067520876689250171169620703222104321626954862629631361443814975870122034080588795445474924618569536486444924104432077134494704956584678850987433944221254487706647809158846074998871240076521705751797883416625624940758906970400028121042762177111777805315317141011704666599146697987317613560067087480710131795236894275219484353056783002287856997829778347845878228911097625003026961561700250464338243776486102838312683303724292
You get the point
675263116533924731671112115881863851331620384005222165791286675294654906811317
159934323597349498509040947621322298101726107059611645629909816290555208524790
352406020172799747175342777592778625619432082750513121815628551222480939471234
145170223735805772786160086883829523045926478780178899219902707769038953219681
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