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SapphireTim
SapphireTim
My PERSONAL Montana Sapphire Success story to air Feb.28,2008
Feb 19 2008, 1:13 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2008, 1:13 PM EST
HOME MINING SAPPHIRES! ORDER INFORMATION BELOW!

I found SUCCESS!

Thanks to "Cash and Treasures" I was able to quit my job and start my own Ebay store. I will be appearing in a commercial on The Travel Channel most likely Feb.28,2008!

I have found the best place for MAIL ORDER home mining Montana Sapphires! I also have an Ebay store where it can be purchased directly from the mine.

This gravel is from the Season One EPISODE "Sapphires". The gravel comes from the same mine as the woman who was showcased last year. She even ships it personally to your door step! All gravel is from The Spokane Bar Sapphire Mine and The El Dorado, Helena Montana!

Here is the link!

http://stores.ebay.com/Gold-Fever-Rock-Shop

Happy Hunting and e-mail me anytime!
Tim Duttry
Ebay user ID is "gemsbytim"
duttry1969@hotmail.com
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pvjjh
pvjjh
1. RE: My PERSONAL Montana Sapphire Success story to air Feb.28,2008
Feb 19 2008, 7:42 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2008, 7:42 PM EST
Hi Tim, congrats on a dream come true I would imagine. I have been to your store on ebay prior to your post here. We plan on coming over to MT this summe for a little sapphire mining. We are definately looking forward to it. Gotta love those sapphires. 0  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
SapphireTim
SapphireTim
2. RE: My PERSONAL Montana Sapphire Success story to air Feb.28,2008
Feb 19 2008, 8:35 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 19 2008, 8:35 PM EST
Wow so glad to hear from you! I will be there for a couple of weeks myself. Did you get a bag of sapphire from Deb or go mining? There are amazing companies over seas that will facet for under $10 a carat finished weight. Any of my rough stones that are 1.5 ct and up I have done here in the states. It's pretty expensive here but worth it if you have a $1,000 ct flawless sapphire!

Cheers!
Tim
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pvjjh
pvjjh
3. RE: My PERSONAL Montana Sapphire Success story to air Feb.28,2008
Feb 24 2008, 1:37 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 24 2008, 1:37 PM EST
Hey Tim,

does that $10 per carat include the heat treatment as well or do you have them treated in country prior to sending them out? Just curious. There are so many stones faceted out of country these days, $10 a carat is a real deal for sure. How many to you send out for faceting at a time? Like is there a minimum - a kilo, 1000 carats or? Also is there a minimum size of stone? Like nothing smaller than 1/2 carat. Or do you just send everything and let them decide? There must be a lot of faith in sending a large lot of rough out for faceting. Have you ever had any problems or supected any thing with the stones you have sent out of country and the finished stones you get back?

Yeah I am looking forward to this summer and a long weekend of sapphire mining and sorting. Just hope we find the hot pocket when we are there. lol Thanks, Paul
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SapphireTim
SapphireTim
4. RE: My PERSONAL Montana Sapphire Success story to air Feb.27,2008
Feb 24 2008, 2:37 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 24 2008, 2:37 PM EST
Faceting over seas can be tricky. You have to make sure you have a good contact. There are many places that do it. You can check the internet and price shop.

Most over seas faceting will charge much lower rates for 500+ carats. I have seen them as low as $1.50 ct. They will also facet as small as 1mm gems!

Depending on the service you can make special notations on each stone for faceting...........Some, you get what you get!

I NEVER recommend heat treating. That will surely devalue your stone sometimes by half. Heat treating is just as expensive if not more than faceting over seas as well as in the US.
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SapphireTim
SapphireTim
5. CORRECTION! My TV commercial will air this Wednesday the 27th!
Feb 24 2008, 2:39 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 24 2008, 2:39 PM EST
CORRECTION! My TV commercial on Cash and Treasures will air this Wednesday the 27th! Not the 28th as mentioned above! 0  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
pvjjh
pvjjh
6. RE: CORRECTION! My TV commercial will air this Wednesday the 27th!
Feb 24 2008, 7:14 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 24 2008, 7:14 PM EST
I didn't know that heat treating would decrease the value of sapphires that much. I know treating other gems does but does sometimes increase the saleability of the stone. I know it does enhance the color of the sapphire. I guess au-naturale is the way to go. I found it interesting when we had some of our stones appraised the jeweler was almost at a loss when it came to natural stones. The emeralds we took in are every nice and he stated he doesn't see them very often. He stated that most everyone now goes for the man made stuff whether they know it or not. The stuff that is perfectly clean. Though he did state that the value of a nature stone is much higher than the man made stuff.

Man faceting a 1 mm stone must be hard. But I guess if one does it all of the time that you would get use to it. But that is good info to know. Send them all in except for the dust. It would be tough to line out 500 cts of stones to individually facet. I would imagine that the type of cut would make a difference in the cost. I mean a like a standard round brillant cut with 57 facets or a portuguese cut with 161 facets. Maybe they won't cut the latter. I do have some roughs I was considering sending out for faceting. I may have to contact you by other means to see who you use if that is ok. Thanks for the info and I will be watching on Wednesday for your commercial.
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pvjjh
pvjjh
7. RE: CORRECTION! My TV commercial will air this Wednesday the 27th!
Feb 28 2008, 11:59 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 28 2008, 11:59 AM EST
Hey Tim great commercial. Man, it makes it hard to wait until this summer when my family, friends and I can make it over to MT to mine ourselves. Do you find this valuable?    
SapphireTim
SapphireTim
8. RE: CORRECTION! My TV commercial will air this Wednesday the 27th!
Feb 28 2008, 12:25 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 28 2008, 12:25 PM EST
Thanks! I do alot of the sifting inside my house during the winter. The Travel Channel just happened to come on a day in February that was 70 degrees............then it started to pour! The Gold Fever Rock shop is finally able to offer the less expensive "Spokane Bar bag" again! If you get axious you can always get a little gravel to hold you over!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=370027451886&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=024
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gotsheila
9. RE: CORRECTION! My TV commercial will air this Wednesday the 27th!
May 4 2008, 11:21 AM EDT | Post edited: May 4 2008, 11:21 AM EDT
"Thanks! I do alot of the sifting inside my house during the winter. The Travel Channel just happened to come on a day in February that was 70 degrees............then it started to pour! The Gold Fever Rock shop is finally able to offer the less expensive "Spokane Bar bag" again! If you get axious you can always get a little gravel to hold you over!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=370027451886&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=024"
Dear Tim, My husband saw a show about mining for sapphires in Montana and he wants to head there this August. I need a little advise about where to head, whether we should stay in Phillipsburg, or Helena, where we can do something more hands on than sift through a bucket, and any other great ideas. Help! Sheila
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pvjjh
pvjjh
10. RE: CORRECTION! My TV commercial will air this Wednesday the 27th!
May 4 2008, 12:55 PM EDT | Post edited: May 4 2008, 12:55 PM EDT
My Family and I along with another family will be heading to MT and the Sapphire mines in late June. I too would like some info as the best places to go. I don't know if there are any places that allow you to dig at the "mine", hopefully Tim can shed some light on that. I think most now is either buckets or a pile of material you dig and screen. either way, I hope you have a great trip! Paul 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
SapphireTim
SapphireTim
11. Don't go to Phillipsburg!
May 4 2008, 4:11 PM EDT | Post edited: May 4 2008, 4:11 PM EDT
If you are interested in finding bags that are pre-sifted and filled with many gems (mostly not local stones) then Phillipsburg is great. You will find lot's of neat stuff. But if you want to actually go for a real sapphire hunt go to Helena, Montana 1-877-DIG-GEMS. The Spokane Bar Sapphire Mine and the El Dorado (if you go to Castles Road) and hit the "Gold Fever Rock Shop" in Helena, Montana...you will be sure to be looking for the real deal! They also carry guaranteed bags but they are salted with material from the property! 5  out of 8 found this valuable. Do you?    
SapphireTim
SapphireTim
12. You can dig on the property in Helena
May 4 2008, 4:15 PM EDT | Post edited: May 4 2008, 4:15 PM EDT
Contact 877-Dig-Gems.........Gold Fever Rock Shop will let you dig for the day but I would still go there and buy the 40 pound bags of gravel they sell. It's MUCH, MUCH cheaper than having it sent to you and digging on the property does not guarantee you are going to walk away with tons of sapphires! The bags are 175 or pure cleaned unsearched concentrate! You will always find sapphires in those bags and won't kill your self shoveling!!!! 6  out of 8 found this valuable. Do you?    

gotsheila
13. RE: You can dig on the property in Helena
May 5 2008, 8:04 AM EDT | Post edited: May 5 2008, 8:04 AM EDT
Thank you so much, this was the info. I was looking for. It just seemed like every place offered bags of stuff, but no one mentioned going off into a field or mine. We may end up going to both spots- as long as gas doesn't get to $5 a gallon. Sheila 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
pvjjh
pvjjh
14. RE: You can dig on the property in Helena
May 6 2008, 12:38 AM EDT | Post edited: May 6 2008, 12:38 AM EDT
Thanks for the info. I am surprised that Gem mtn MT salts their material with sapphires from another area or country.That is always a bummer. It is my understanding that the El Dorado will not be open this year but at least there will be the Spokane Bar to too. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
SapphireTim
SapphireTim
15. RE: You can dig on the property in Helena
May 6 2008, 1:10 AM EDT | Post edited: May 6 2008, 1:10 AM EDT
I think ALL mines salt there bags to some degree. The ones I mentioned in Spokane are with rough found on property. I am not putting down Gem Mountain at all and do not know where or what they salt with. I have bought from them and can only report my personal findings. I am not an authority.

The El Dorado is incredibly rich with sapphire. It's tough to get to and very expensive to mine at. I think that there is simply lack of trustworthy laborers to help you dig and watch over the site! The mine is a hot bed for 2.5 months and then dead for the winter. Wish it was in New Jersey.........lol........population 4 million and 1/8 the size of Montana!
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Facetor187
16. RE: You can dig on the property in Helena
May 29 2008, 1:08 AM EDT | Post edited: May 29 2008, 1:08 AM EDT
What was your experience at Gem Mtn that makes you think they salt? 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
SapphireTim
SapphireTim
17. It is a mistake to compare Helena, MT to Gem Mountain
May 29 2008, 2:08 AM EDT | Post edited: May 29 2008, 2:08 AM EDT
It is a mistake to compare Helena, MT to Gem Mountain. The quality of sapphire is completely different.............When you find less there is usually a good reason...Montana sapphire is an expensive treaure!!!.......If you expect to find handfuls of sapphires I can guarantee you they are either not real or from Thailand.

I don't know anything about Gem Mountain or what they do. I just know what I have been told and what I have found.
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Facetor187
18. RE: It is a mistake to compare Helena, MT to Gem Mountain
Jun 4 2008, 11:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 4 2008, 11:14 PM EDT
Don't go to Phillipsburg!
May 4 2008, 4:11 PM EDT

If you are interested in finding bags that are pre-sifted and filled with many gems (mostly not local stones) then Phillipsburg is great.

That was your earlier post. Just curious as to what "not local stones" your referring to. I wonder if you know that sapphires found in different locales are different in formations. I'm still curious from "your experience" with Gem Mountain with this post ". "I have bought from them and can only report my personal findings. I am not an authority." I've spent many days at both locations and have never found a stone at Gem Mountain that looked like a Thai sapphire. I have a little of a pound of sapphires that I found (over 4 trips during the last 2 years) at Gem Mountain with 300 carats being facet quality. None look like Thai sapphires or Australian sapphires or Sri Lankan sapphires. So I'm really interested in "your experience" with salted non native stones at Gem Mountain.
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pvjjh
pvjjh
19. RE: It is a mistake to compare Helena, MT to Gem Mountain
Jun 4 2008, 11:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 4 2008, 11:46 PM EDT
Hey how much material do you run while you are at Gem mtn? Do you buy the gravel bagged or in buckets or work the bulk material or both. lol. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
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