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40. RE: Faceted carnelian
Jun 4 2008, 12:14 PM EDT
"Paul I guess you would have to start with a fairly large agate say a 1-2oz clear translucent to get a 6-8 ct faceted stone.Guess it would matter on the # of cuts or angles 2 I suppose. Keep up the great work err I mean fun. >> Andy"Hi Andy, I don't know about ounces but sometimes you have to cut up a big piece to get to a small piece of good stuff. But if the rough is clean and clear you can get away with a pretty good sized finished cut from a smaller piece. When you go to school take good notes as I will be picking your brain about this stuff. lol I really don't know the actual cutouts if you will of a piece. You are right it depends on the cut - shape, number of facets, whether you cut to maximun yield or to a calibrated size. You are right it is fun and can hardly wait for you to start to enjoy the world of faceting and cabbing. Paul Do you find this valuable? |
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41. RE: Faceted carnelian
Jun 4 2008, 2:42 PM EDT
Me to Paul..........way things are going it could very well be my next vocation. An assocciate of mine has said if I get the education he"ll get the equipment. His F/partner and daughter are amoung my rock hunting buddies.He loves the finnished product such as the ones you just completed with the carnelian & tourmaline. I showed him the pic's of your handywork & he was impressed. The rough doesn't do a thing for him as does the thrill of the hunt. But to see the before and the after of the stone amazes and excites him.
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42. RE: Faceted carnelian
Jun 5 2008, 1:43 AM EDT
"Me to Paul..........way things are going it could very well be my next vocation. An assocciate of mine has said if I get the education he"ll get the equipment. His F/partner and daughter are amoung my rock hunting buddies.He loves the finnished product such as the ones you just completed with the carnelian & tourmaline. I showed him the pic's of your handywork & he was impressed. The rough doesn't do a thing for him as does the thrill of the hunt. But to see the before and the after of the stone amazes and excites him."Hey Andy, now that is a great deal, for the both of you! Man I get to enjoy it all. Find the stone, trim and cut the stone and get to see the results. Andy you are going to enjoy doing this. It is truly a kick! Hurry up and get to schoolin then we can see your handy work. :-) I can hardly wait. Paul Do you find this valuable? |
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43. RE: Faceted carnelian
Jun 5 2008, 3:27 PM EDT
Say Paul do you have a light refracter/reflector or whatever is used to determine a stones translucency. Is there such a thing? Rained CATS & WESTSIDERs (he he) day before yesterday but yesterday it was a bright,clean and refreshing day after the torrential downpour >>>>>>>>> set a record here for total amount in a day.Anyway revisted the gravel pit and several surrounding locales and ended up with some very nice nodules.Going to have to take back some slabs to work with for that school in Sept - cab class. Watcha gona facet next? Andy Do you find this valuable? |
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44. RE: Faceted carnelian
Jun 5 2008, 6:53 PM EDT
Hey Andy, no I do not have a refractometer or whatever they call that thing. I just us a good full spectrum light and a solution called refractal. It works pretty well. There are different chemicals and solution that have the correct refractive index for gems. You get the right solution with the gem, when you put the gem in to it, it almost disappears, then you can se inside of the stone and see the inclusions or flaws. I put a sunstone in the solution some time ago and I actually had a hard time finding it and getting back out. The only thing I could see was a blue hue/rays. It was amazing. I am sure you will get to learn all about this stuff this summer. Hey if you get a chance you ought to get this book "Faceting for Amateurs" by Glenn and Martha Vargus. There are 4 editions, but the 3rd addition has always been recommended to me. These can be sort of expensive, but it is a good book.You talk about rain, we are in a frog choking down pour right now. We can always use the rain, but geez. I guess it is a good day for wood and faceting. lol Glad you are having a nice day, gunky here. Well what am I going to facet? I was working on a topaz but stopped to do your agate and Ellen's tourmaline so probably a topaz. I have some fluoride crystals that Ellen sent up dopped and ready to go too. I stumbled on to another deal recently. All my penny's plus some I didn't have are all gone now. I ended up buying out a gentleman who had a lot of equipment and rocks. Lots of rocks. Anyway, I now have to get things moved around and setup the new stuff. Also look through boxes of rocks - Jeff likes doing that. It is kind of like Christmas. I have plenty of cabbing material now Keep out there hunting them agates, only a couple of days remaining for the agate contest. Paul Do you find this valuable? |
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45. RE: Faceted carnelian
Jun 5 2008, 7:19 PM EDT
Frog ChokingRAin,,hmmm that must be a very large amount of falling water.oops oh wait your frogs aren't used to rain so it is probably only what we would call a drizzle,,hehehe Tom Do you find this valuable? |
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46. RE:RainNhare
Jun 5 2008, 7:28 PM EDT
good day to wash off all the rocks, a natural wash. Tom have you been dancing again?rain and some thunder hare. Do you find this valuable? |
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47. RE: RE:RainNhare
Jun 5 2008, 7:42 PM EDT
"good day to wash off all the rocks, a natural wash. Tom have you been dancing again?Ok Guys First off I am a Sundancer for the nation not a rain maker. Second is the creator probably figured with all the schooling you were about to start he should moisten up your cranium so you could absorb the knowledge soon to be offered you. Thirdly and lastly there is a quote which goes" into each life alittle rain must fall" thus to greater appreciate the pleasurable things in life. So quit whining and get out and get wet and Be Happy,la te dahl tra la,tra la. Do you find this valuable? |
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48. RE: RE:RainNhare
Jun 5 2008, 7:56 PM EDT
Man your head has been in the clouds way too long!!! ;-o lol
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49. RE: RE:RainNhare
Jun 5 2008, 8:02 PM EDT
He He He.........:) Ya sure danced around that question. Glad ya said Guy's cause ya must have been talking about Paul. Be Happy........................Don't Worry. I Agree on the 2nd point as some petrification has been noticed in my cavity of knowledge recently.Lastly I want to thank you for your raindrops of knowledge and wisdom which you graciously sprinkle upon this site for all to enjoy.
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50. RE: RE:RainNhare
Jun 5 2008, 8:21 PM EDT
"He He He.........:) Ya sure danced around that question. Glad ya said Guy's cause ya must have been talking about Paul. Be Happy........................Don't Worry. I Agree on the 2nd point as some petrification has been noticed in my cavity of knowledge recently.Lastly I want to thank you for your raindrops of knowledge and wisdom which you graciously sprinkle upon this site for all to enjoy."ANDY!!! Were you out in the rain today!!!!????!!!!!! Do you find this valuable? |
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51. RE: RE:RainNhare
Jun 5 2008, 8:48 PM EDT
A little bit........just enough to get rehydrated, but have opted to stay dry. And you?Love & Peace to All Andy Do you find this valuable? |
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52. RE: RE:RainNhare
Jun 5 2008, 8:54 PM EDT
"A little bit........just enough to get rehydrated, but have opted to stay dry. And you?LOL No I stayed out of it. Looks to be breaking up here. Even a little sun is shining. on the hills. No you just had me worried about the way you were talking, you know all the ushy gushy stuff. i feel better now. lol You out rockin' tomorrow?? Paul Do you find this valuable? |
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53. RE: RE:RainNhare
Jun 5 2008, 9:35 PM EDT
Yes breaking up here as well now. Hope to get out for a few more hrs tommorrow,wanted to get out to day,Just havn some fun with Tom, ya know he's a little short on us Eastsiders at times but I love em.
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54. RE: RE:RainNhare
Jun 5 2008, 10:26 PM EDT
LOLOk you two I was out in the rain today playing with rocks and other things. All set to go after T-Eggs in the morning I have my son and brother going also to help dig. This darn wing is about totally useless. However If I have to sit an me arse and kick the dirt out of the hole I will dig at least one egg. Tally ho T-Egging we go,,tra la, tra la whoopedeedoo Tom Do you find this valuable? |
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55. RE: RE:RainNhare
Jun 5 2008, 10:55 PM EDT
Hey remember your suppossed to kick out one for Paul and me 2. Sounds like ya got the work party..................whose driving anyway?Well I give ya 5 stars general your the greater excavater wounded wing or not.
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56. RE: RE:RainNhare
Jun 5 2008, 11:27 PM EDT
Got you two covered don't worry. Will make sure you both get egged since you can not come,hehehe. The plan is for all three of us to drive a little bit. I wont drive very much because I can not handle the seat belt across my shoulder for very long. I tried slipping it under my arm but then it pushed on the shoulder blade and that was more uncomfortable. But by this time tomorrow if Livy remembers the fixins we should be enjoying SMORES and stories at the Sagebrushminers claim.Hi Ho Hi Ho a digging we will goTom Do you find this valuable? |
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57. who cares about:RainNhare, thems going t-egg huntin'!
Jun 5 2008, 11:32 PM EDT
You got that right Andy, busted up wing or not he can move some dirt. Now Tom you are suppose to be out in the rain, you live there and you like rain. There is some saying about getting out of the rain or something like that, but I can't remember. Must be the lack of rain. lol You have a great crew going with ya Tom. Have a great time and watch out for them critters down yonder. My understanding those t-eggs are really, really mean down there. But if'n you can catch one or dozen, they are beaut's!! I wish I was going as along most others on here I presume. Be careful and have fun! You too Dave and Rockpuppy and of course Don the host and his crew as well. Andy who ya think will find the first 6" whole, un-fractured egg??? You know I always wondered what would happen if the thunder was still in the egg when you open it up. Would it run out like a chicken egg? Like t-rex egg? A mystery we may never know. lol Have a great time you guys! Paul Do you find this valuable? |
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58. RE: who cares about:RainNhare, thems going t-egg huntin'!
Jun 5 2008, 11:57 PM EDT
Oh unlearned oneThe thunder never leaves the egg. The Wakia are the spirit of the creation and their power remains with the creation. those who know the songs can call the Wakia and use their medicine to help others. Those who do not can be harmed in the trying. MY name tells people I am known to the Wakia. I will not give my name here for very obvious reasons but some day I may share it with you. That is one reason I do not sweat the weather when traveling. There are many things to learn in this world and not all can be touched with the hand. Tom Do you find this valuable? |
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59. RE: RE:RainNhare
Jun 6 2008, 12:00 AM EDT
"Got you two covered don't worry. Will make sure you both get egged since you can not come,hehehe. The plan is for all three of us to drive a little bit. I wont drive very much because I can not handle the seat belt across my shoulder for very long. I tried slipping it under my arm but then it pushed on the shoulder blade and that was more uncomfortable. But by this time tomorrow if Livy remembers the fixins we should be enjoying SMORES and stories at the Sagebrushminers claim.Hi Ho Hi Ho a digging we will goTom, Don't worry, I won't be forgetten the smores! Even remembered to throw in the roasting sticks this time...Should we be bringing extras? =) Well it be bedtime for me 4:30 comes real early and I still gotta work in the tomorrow before heading out. Paul and Andy, We'll be missing you guys this weekend but don't worry we oughta be able to find ya an egg Gnitall! Livy Do you find this valuable? |
