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Oregonrockmom |
Biggs Jasper
Sep 24 2008, 1:07 AM EDT
I am new to this board, but saw some people talking about collecting Biggs Jasper. How much luck have you all had? We went up there (yes ODOT does use this area) and we were super lucky and found not only lots of smaller chunks of the really nice stuff (maybe they had just blasted a new area out not long before our visit), but a boulder (well, about 50 pound piece with some chert, but some lines too, we have yet to get that one opened to actually see what's inside. I recently got a piece cut and it is beautiful. I will try to post it to the pictures area to share with you all. BTW, does anyone know what kind of potential market, if any exists for this? I also want to buy some equipment to cut, grind and polish, but mainly have never polished, what's the process for that?
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washingtoncougar |
1. RE: Biggs Jasper
Sep 24 2008, 1:39 AM EDT
Welcome aboard, love the pic of the Biggs Jasper seems you hit a good spot. The stuff we collected isn't turning out so good, it is either really dark with dark lines or nothing at all. Did you go to the same place that I post about just above Biggs? Not sure of the market of todays Biggs Jasper but I know that the original pieces with the light colors and dark line and bits of blue in it is highly sought after, man it would be nice to find a new site for that with out digging up the interstate. : ) LOLDave Do you find this valuable? |
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2. RE: Biggs Jasper
Sep 24 2008, 1:47 AM EDT
We were at the quarry area right next to the road out of Biggs, along side of 84. We just kicked around for the day (well the kids and I did and my husband slept in the van, he was raised in town Chicago and does not get so excited about a bunch of rocks). I seem to have a knack for finding stuff, maybe it is just pure luck. I went in already knowing what the good stuff looked like, so I was immediately looking for browns with lines and swirls. We also would up with some lifeless chert, one chunk had the nice "blue" color, but zero lines, it is now a garden rock. We have not broken open the big one. My son has attempted to crack it open, but this stuff is really hard and I swear we'll need a jackhammer for it (I am not so sure anyone has a saw this big). We also took home a bunch of junk, but that's ok, we had a lot of fun and did find some really good stuff. I am hoping to train myself to grind and polish it to make some nice jewelry for gifts and maybe to help finance an opal trip!
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washingtoncougar |
3. RE: Biggs Jasper
Sep 24 2008, 5:42 PM EDT
What are the dimensions of the large piece? We might be able to cut it in our saw. The family and I dug in any area above Biggs close to the old jasper claim. Dave Do you find this valuable? |
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Oregonrockmom |
4. RE: Biggs Jasper
Sep 25 2008, 1:11 PM EDT
I think this chunk is possibly about 18 inches in length and about 2 feet in diameter. My son has tried to take a sledge hammer to break it up, but he simply got some of the outer stuff off. Some spots look just like brown chert, and then some lighter browns with some lines do show up in other spots, so I feel there has to be something within that rock (hopefully, I have to justify having my husband help lift it into the back of the van!!).
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai |
5. RE: Biggs Jasper
Sep 25 2008, 1:29 PM EDT
"I think this chunk is possibly about 18 inches in length and about 2 feet in diameter. My son has tried to take a sledge hammer to break it up, but he simply got some of the outer stuff off. Some spots look just like brown chert, and then some lighter browns with some lines do show up in other spots, so I feel there has to be something within that rock (hopefully, I have to justify having my husband help lift it into the back of the van!!)."A word of caution. Hitting a valuable piece of cutting rough with a sledge or other hammer can ruin the piece. Fractures will permeate the rock destroying its value. Biggs is bringing a premium price as is other Oregon jaspers and a large piece could be worth a tidy sum. Nice find. I love Biggs and have a great deal of rough. Thanks for sharing your adventure. Bill 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai |
6. RE: Biggs Jasper
Sep 25 2008, 1:31 PM EDT
"I think this chunk is possibly about 18 inches in length and about 2 feet in diameter. My son has tried to take a sledge hammer to break it up, but he simply got some of the outer stuff off. Some spots look just like brown chert, and then some lighter browns with some lines do show up in other spots, so I feel there has to be something within that rock (hopefully, I have to justify having my husband help lift it into the back of the van!!)."I just got in the new Rock and Gem Magazine. It features an article about Biggs jasper. Bill Do you find this valuable? |
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Oregonrockmom |
7. RE: Biggs Jasper
Sep 25 2008, 2:24 PM EDT
I think in the West, we have some of the most beautiful jaspers. I was perusing the internet about it and some of the stuff just cannot come close to the colors or varieties here. Biggs is to me, one of the best, I love the fact, also, that it is right in my backyard (so to speak, right up the river from me).BTW, I just added a photo album of some potential jasper, but I am not sure what it is, my 10 year old daughter found it in the river right above the Green Peter lake in Willamette National Forest. Dense heavy little rock with lots of lines, has been tumbled in the river, but feels like jasper. Look and give ideas on it. Thanks 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai |
8. RE: Biggs Jasper
Sep 25 2008, 8:34 PM EDT
"I think in the West, we have some of the most beautiful jaspers. I was perusing the internet about it and some of the stuff just cannot come close to the colors or varieties here. Biggs is to me, one of the best, I love the fact, also, that it is right in my backyard (so to speak, right up the river from me).Oregon has some of the world's most famous and beautiful agates and jaspers. The major difference between a jasper and an agate is an agate is transparent and a jasper is opaque. See our page on agate formation on the left page listing. Bill Do you find this valuable? |
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washingtoncougar |
9. RE: Biggs Jasper
Sep 29 2008, 9:37 PM EDT
Oregonrockmom,My 24" inch saw can handle a rock that is 24" long by 13 and half" wide by about 9" thick. If that chunk that you have is with in those measurements Livy and I could cut it for you if you wanted. Dave Dave Do you find this valuable? |
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Oregonrockmom |
10. RE: Biggs Jasper
Sep 30 2008, 12:02 AM EDT
13 wide, 10 (sort of uneven, might be 9 at spots) and 20 inches are the measurements. Right in the middle of that rock is what looks likes some of the nice creamy cocoa color and some lines, classic Biggs. I am anxious to see it inside. I won't presume anything, so will ask what you charge?
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washatonian |
11. RE: Biggs Jasper
Oct 15 2008, 10:20 AM EDT
The following site has some good info regarding Biggs Jasper and it's story.http://www.minerals-n-more.com/Biggs_Jasper_Info.html When I was at Lapidary school in Georgia this past month,there was a high degree of interest in the Jaspers. The old material revealed by the ODOT is very much in demand and supplies are dwindling . Aman Do you find this valuable? |
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Oregonrockmom |
12. RE: Biggs Jasper
Nov 22 2008, 11:03 PM EST
The kids talked us into going up there again this weekend. It has been about one year since we went, and a lot has shown up from the elements. We were excited as we found some small chunks that are the Biggs Blue!! Not much. I will tell all here, for those who have the tools, there is a HUGE boulder, sticking out of a pile, you know where to park don't you all? You take that little driveway up and when you park as close as you can to the big rubble piles, you will be close. This thing has some color, lines and pictures, but I venture to guess it will take several strong men, a winch and a ramp to load. Weight? Not good at that, but I can tell you we could not even budge it. We tried, but only had a spade shovel and a pry bar, my teen son, myself and daughter (husband stands by and wrinkles his nose, wondering why we wan't the "BLANK" rock) dug, cleared and attempted to pry, but it did not even move. So, whoever ventures up there can get it, and share the bounty. I also figured out how people are finding stuff that is not just up front. The old rubble piles, they are digging into them and finding the buried stuff, and I think there may be some more of the "Blue" out there. Go get em'!!!!
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai |
13. RE: Biggs Jasper
Nov 23 2008, 5:25 PM EST
The blue Biggs is bringing $15 to $65 dollars per pound in the rough depending on the quality. More patterns and vibrant colors brings the highest price. The old stock Biggs chocolate picture jasper is priced at $10 to $20 per pound. Higher prices are found on the better quality chocolate Biggs. I move Biggs easily. If I were closer I would go get the boulder. Assuming by Big Boulder you mean 500 pounds plus; by my calculations, I come up with $5000 at $10 a pound. You did not say if it was the blue Biggs? If it is the blue with beautiful patterns this price is low. Good pay for a day's work.Bill Do you find this valuable? |
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Oregonrockmom |
14. RE: Biggs Jasper
Nov 23 2008, 11:23 PM EST
It is browns. Looks like those nice creamy cocoa colors that first got me hooked, seems like some nice lines. I guess it could be about 500, I know this stuff is quite dense, so that might not surprise me. I had thought that if someone could bring a cordless drill with a masonary bit, make a few strategic holes, then take a chisel and hammer of some sort, and pop it off in chunks, may be the only way to handle something that big (besides, does anyone have a saw big enough to cut that one?). We were finding some small stuff with the blue, very pretty blue. Pictures on the internet I have seem of the blue Biggs was a sorry gray color, and so I did not think I liked it that much, but the blue we were finding was almost a sky blue with some brown lines, maybe not as much as the older stuff. We also noticed that some of the jasper were were seeing this time, although pretty in colors and lines, was rough and not as dense. Maybe a lesser stuff, not as well formed?
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai |
15. RE: Biggs Jasper
Nov 24 2008, 9:29 AM EST
"It is browns. Looks like those nice creamy cocoa colors that first got me hooked, seems like some nice lines. I guess it could be about 500, I know this stuff is quite dense, so that might not surprise me. I had thought that if someone could bring a cordless drill with a masonary bit, make a few strategic holes, then take a chisel and hammer of some sort, and pop it off in chunks, may be the only way to handle something that big (besides, does anyone have a saw big enough to cut that one?). We were finding some small stuff with the blue, very pretty blue. Pictures on the internet I have seem of the blue Biggs was a sorry gray color, and so I did not think I liked it that much, but the blue we were finding was almost a sky blue with some brown lines, maybe not as much as the older stuff. We also noticed that some of the jasper were were seeing this time, although pretty in colors and lines, was rough and not as dense. Maybe a lesser stuff, not as well formed?"Some folks on the WIKI have large slab saws. You might go halves on the good stuff. If they slab it you get half. Nice slabs sell like hot cakes on e-bay or at Rock and Gem Shows. Note: it must be good material. The rock hound buyer knows the difference. The boulder can be split, but only along natural cleavage points. A good napper or rockhound could look at the boulder and find the point where a chisel will split the boulder. Do not just pound away at the boulder with a sledge hammer or you could ruin it. Some of the Oregon folks might help. Sagebrushminers are expects on mining gemstone material. If hound that is actively collecting; at some point the decision has to be made to high grade the collection or get buried in rocks. Billie Ann and I realized long ago that selling the excess goodies will pay for our trips and give us an extra income. We really enjoy selling our minerals, cutting material and finished jewelry . Its not so much the money as it is talking rocks with folks and having them enjoy our finds and creations. Bill Do you find this valuable? |
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai |
16. RE: Biggs Jasper
Nov 24 2008, 10:02 AM EST
Dave has a 24" saw. You might contact him about cutting on the halves. He is washington cougar (see above). Bill Do you find this valuable? |
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai |
17. RE: Biggs Jasper
Nov 24 2008, 5:20 PM EST
I did an ebay search and the a really nice piece of the Blue Biggs had 5 bids. It was 10 OZ and the bid price was $54. You say some of what you are finding is sky blue? It might be worth a trip. Good Rockhounding.Bill Do you find this valuable? |
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Oregonrockmom |
18. RE: Biggs Jasper
Nov 24 2008, 11:39 PM EST
http://cash-and-treasures-wiki.travelchannel.com/album/67082/Blue%20BiggsHere is a picture of what we found. Honestly, we had a short day, and where someone else had found some uncovered chunks and left this behind, we could have dug more, but did not have the time. I know these are not the ideal pieces, but I thought they were nice and the color was pretty. If nothing else, we'll keep these and see if I can have some nice things made just for myself or gifts. These two belong to my 11 year old daughter. She was at a distance, and yelled out "um, mom, why are they blue instead of brown?" which made me come running down one of the large older piles almost falling twice! Honestly, I have seen some stuff selling at bead shops and even in beading catalogs, not that good of quality, but selling even so. We have quite a few nice pieces, and have been doing some bartering with someone and like the idea that we can just enjoy and then pass that along (of course we get something in return). That boulder should be brought out by someone who knows how and has the stuff to do it. I tried, but even with the reluctant assistance of my Chicago born and raised, city boy husband, I don't think we could have gotten it out. BTW, Cougar did offer, he said after hunting season (when's that?) If anyone of these groups that post here decide to go up and try to get it out, let me know, I'd like to be there to see it!! Do you find this valuable? |
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washatonian |
19. RE: Bruneau Jasper
Nov 25 2008, 5:03 PM EST
************FYI**************** OCT 2008 R&G magazine has good jasper article. Aman Do you find this valuable? |