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aubreyreynolds9@gmai
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Oct 26 2008, 9:24 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 26 2008, 9:24 AM EDT
I am in Columbus Ohio playing with twin grand daugthers, Billie and I stopped at Flint Ridge and meet with the well known napper, Roy Miller. (see Ohio - National Directory) Did we everget into great cutting material. Top grade , multi colored, banded flint. I will post some pictures, we plan on hitting the flourite mines in Illinios and Kentucky or the agates beds. Having a great time chasing grand girls.
Bill & Billie
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pvjjh
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Oct 26 2008, 12:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 26 2008, 12:19 PM EDT
"I am in Columbus Ohio playing with twin grand daugthers, Billie and I stopped at Flint Ridge and meet with the well known napper, Roy Miller. (see Ohio - National Directory) Did we everget into great cutting material. Top grade , multi colored, banded flint. I will post some pictures, we plan on hitting the flourite mines in Illinios and Kentucky or the agates beds. Having a great time chasing grand girls.
Bill & Billie"
Sounds liike a great time. Catch them grandkids and give a good tickle for us! Hope you get some good rockin material on your adventures. Have a great trip!

Paul
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai
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Oct 29 2008, 10:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 29 2008, 10:31 PM EDT
"Sounds liike a great time. Catch them grandkids and give a good tickle for us! Hope you get some good rockin material on your adventures. Have a great trip!

Paul"
We made it back safe. I wanted to hit Flint Ridge for the famous Ohio flint. The flint was traded by native Americans across the Midwest and even found it way into the plains tribes. The flint is glassy and shells out conchoidal slabs. The State of Ohio has a park that features Native America craftsmanship. We hit three site each with a different flint. The first sight had flint that looked like Biggs jasper. The second sight was Roy Millers mine where we collected to our hearts content, The third sight was on Flint Ridge Road at the Nethers farm. We hit Hocking Hills State park and stayed a Cedar Falls Inn. Great place, great food and real beauty.
Of course the two twin grand babies was the main attraction. All in all we had a wonderful time. I posted some pictures.
Bill
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pvjjh
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Oct 30 2008, 12:03 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 30 2008, 12:03 AM EDT
"We made it back safe. I wanted to hit Flint Ridge for the famous Ohio flint. The flint was traded by native Americans across the Midwest and even found it way into the plains tribes. The flint is glassy and shells out conchoidal slabs. The State of Ohio has a park that features Native America craftsmanship. We hit three site each with a different flint. The first sight had flint that looked like Biggs jasper. The second sight was Roy Millers mine where we collected to our hearts content, The third sight was on Flint Ridge Road at the Nethers farm. We hit Hocking Hills State park and stayed a Cedar Falls Inn. Great place, great food and real beauty.
Of course the two twin grand babies was the main attraction. All in all we had a wonderful time. I posted some pictures.
Bill"
Welcome back! :-) It sounds like you had a great trip. Those grandyoungin's taken center stage sounds like a kick! Gotta love them youngin's. Some neat pics, beautiful this time of year.

Man those are some beautiful and awesome points and flint. Neat stuff - great pics. You going to try you hand at making points, egads, maybe you already do. lol

Been sort of quiet here this week. Even Tom has been quiet. Everyone must be working hard on them rocks and stuff. :-)

Paul
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TallTomSr
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Oct 30 2008, 1:24 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 30 2008, 1:24 AM EDT
Glad you had a safe trip Bill.
You are right about them grandkids. No matter how many you have they are all special. And chasing them around is a real work out,,lol.
That flint you gathered and the pics you posted look awesome.
Tom
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai
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Oct 30 2008, 8:25 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 30 2008, 8:25 AM EDT
"Glad you had a safe trip Bill.
You are right about them grandkids. No matter how many you have they are all special. And chasing them around is a real work out,,lol.
That flint you gathered and the pics you posted look awesome.
Tom"
I know several nappers and I have tried my hand at it. A good napper can turn out some incredible pieces. Working with flint requires great care. Good grade flint creates razor sharp edges. The pieces for sale have been dulled on purpose to make them safer to handle. Tom the tiny little points that most people call "bird points " were not used to hunt birds. True bird points are blunt so as to not shoot right through the bird. I have heard all kinds of explanations of what they were used for. Some say for ceremony. Maybe you could shed some light on the purpose of the points.
Bill
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TallTomSr
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Oct 30 2008, 12:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 30 2008, 12:27 PM EDT
Actually that is true Bill
A Bird shaft for hunting didn't have a point on it. they still don't. The small points that you refer to as bird points wre used for heavy winged birds such as Geese. But their most common use was for small game such as rabbit and for practice. They were also used in ceremony on sacred symbols and were considered good luck. They were given to the people after a ceremony as a way to bring good things to them. When Boys were learning the use of the bow they would use these points to humt and practice their skills. Another thing that alot of people don't know is that turqoise was considered to improve the accuracy of an archer. So alot of bows had a piece of turqoise attached to them and some times even the arrow shaft would have a turqoise chip attached to it.
Tom
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washatonian
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Oct 30 2008, 12:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 30 2008, 12:55 PM EDT
The bigger the game the bigger the projectile points.Certainly not intended to discount your thoughts Tom.
Mr Millers knapping is masterful and that flint material is yummy. Would have loved to have been there with you. Sounds like a GRAND adventure.
Aman
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai
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Oct 30 2008, 4:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 30 2008, 4:09 PM EDT
Thanks Tom. I have seen points as tiny as a head of a small screw driver. I figured that the tiniest points had to do with more than hunting big game. It takes extreme skill to make a point that small. In my imagination I have thought about braves sitting around a camp fire seeing who could make the tiniest point. Kind of like deer camp where hunters sit around the fire and whittle wood making tooth picks and swapping tale tales about the big one still left in the woods. I have a true bird arrow that dates back 2000 years that I posted a picture of on the Unique Treasure page. I plan on donating it along with my Native American collection to the University of Oklahoma. Do you any nappers?
Bill
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai
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Oct 30 2008, 4:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 30 2008, 4:20 PM EDT
Sorry I meant: Do you know any nappers? Most nappers heat treat the flint. Roy cooks his at 550F for thirty six hours. It makes the flint easier to work. I under stand that Native Americans cooked the flint by burying it under a camp fire and letting it cool slowly so as not to fracture the flint with heat stress. Do you find this valuable?    
TallTomSr
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Oct 30 2008, 5:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 30 2008, 5:29 PM EDT
Yes that is how they would do it sort of. They would build a fire and get a good bed of coals. then they would dig a hile next to it and rake in a layer of coals about four to six inch's deep. THey would put their flint on top of that and then rake more coals over it. Then put a layer of earth to trap the heat and leave it for four a couple of days. I know of two people locally who still do this and make great points. They make them for people to use in giveaways after ceremonies like sundance and joinings.
Tom
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai
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Oct 30 2008, 6:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 30 2008, 6:45 PM EDT
"The bigger the game the bigger the projectile points.Certainly not intended to discount your thoughts Tom.
Mr Millers knapping is masterful and that flint material is yummy. Would have loved to have been there with you. Sounds like a GRAND adventure.
Aman"
It was a lot of fun. I did not have time to stop a Cave in Rock Illinois for the fluorite. but I have collected there before an have some nice specimens from the area. I was hoping to hit the Kentucky agate sites which has some great agate. Most states have something good to find. Ohio also has some great fossils. I collect fossils but there does not appear to be many fossil hunters in our group.
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havermap
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Oct 30 2008, 8:03 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 30 2008, 8:03 PM EDT
I collect fossils, because they are plentiful here in Michigan. A person has to collect what is close to home sometimes. Do you find this valuable?    

havermap
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Oct 30 2008, 8:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 30 2008, 8:25 PM EDT

Didn't check out the pics before coming on. The Flint is beautiful and your friend is a true artist. Sounds like the best hunting was on private land.

Grand (children) grow in a blink, hold them while you can!
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai
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Oct 30 2008, 9:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 30 2008, 9:42 PM EDT
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Didn't check out the pics before coming on. The Flint is beautiful and your friend is a true artist. Sounds like the best hunting was on private land.

Grand (children) grow in a blink, hold them while you can! "
One site that Billie Ann found was on a power line right of way. She asked me to stop so that she could go into the woods for other reasons than finding rocks. (If you what I mean.) I found an out crop of flint while waiting for her. The second site was across from the State Park on land were Roy digs for flint for working and also to sell at the gift shop. He had a back hoe and was digging down about six feet. In almost all rock collecting the best material is well below the surface. This is especially true in high rain areas with freezing and thawing. It does not take nature long to start cracking exposed rocks. Shale goes in months, limestone in years, and agates start to fracture over decades. Good fossil sites are often in shale and a good site can be gone in a very short period of time. The third flint site was on a farm that Roy told be about. It was the only fee site $5 to dig.
Bill
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