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pinkey40
arrowheads
Jan 16 2009, 10:26 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 16 2009, 10:26 PM EST
I live on the Mississippi GulfCoast and was wondering if anyone can tell me if they know of any place to hunt for arrowheads or maybe in Alabama Do you find this valuable?    
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washatonian
washatonian
1. RE: arrowheads
Jan 16 2009, 10:40 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 16 2009, 10:40 PM EST
Well I could certainly tell you where here in Washington. However those locations are now off limits due to the Antiquity Act of 1979 I believe or are now submerged below the water as a result of Hydroelectric Projects on our major rivers. One exception would be private property.
Aman
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pinkey40
2. RE: arrowheads
Jan 17 2009, 12:05 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2009, 12:05 AM EST
thanks for your help anyway. good luck in your area. Do you find this valuable?    
aubreyreynolds9@gmai
aubreyreynolds9@gmai
3. RE: arrowheads
Jan 17 2009, 12:12 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 17 2009, 12:12 AM EST
"thanks for your help anyway. good luck in your area."
I posted sites in Mississippi on the National Directory, The Mississippi River sand bars are great sites to collect fossils, agates, jasper. You get the whole Midwest in one spot because the Mississippi drains such as vast area.
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JBare
JBare
4. RE: arrowheads
Jan 19 2009, 12:32 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 19 2009, 12:32 AM EST
"I live on the Mississippi GulfCoast and was wondering if anyone can tell me if they know of any place to hunt for arrowheads or maybe in Alabama"
Hey Pinkey, There is a lot of Flint Rock around Dothan, Al. Don't know about Arrowheads though.
Jim
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pinkey40
5. RE: arrowheads
Jan 19 2009, 1:46 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 19 2009, 1:46 PM EST
Thanks you have been very helpful. Do you find this valuable?    
aubreyreynolds9@gmai
aubreyreynolds9@gmai
6. RE: arrowheads
Jan 19 2009, 3:33 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 19 2009, 3:33 PM EST
"Thanks you have been very helpful."
Be very careful about collecting arrowheads. There was a recent article in our paper about a man who walking out of the National Forest with five arrowheads in his pocket. He received five years in prison. It is illegal to collect on public lands. On Federal Lands: National Parks, National Forest, Corp of Engineers land it is a Federal Crime. If you dig into a Native American site (burial mound, tribal village, or dig up a Native American grave) the terms of imprisonment are even worst. Even on private lands your can not dig up grave sites or significant archaeological sites. Collecting arrows laying on top the ground on private property is not a crime.
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washatonian
washatonian
7. RE: arrowheads
Jan 20 2009, 8:16 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2009, 8:16 AM EST
Jake & Skeeter
Currently to the best of my knowlege all artifacts found or discovered on private lands are excluded and exempt from regulortory intervention and prosecution. What Bill discloses is also correct, with numerous examples to reflect on.
Aman
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washatonian
washatonian
8. RE: arrowheads
Jan 20 2009, 8:33 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2009, 8:33 AM EST
Archaeology:
Laws

In Washington State archaeological sites and Native American graves are protected from known disturbance by a variety of state and federal laws. Federal law applies to all federal and native American lands and Washington State law applies to all other lands. The following is a list of existing laws regulating archaeological sites:

Selected federal laws on archaeology:

Archaeological Resource Protection Act of 1979
Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act
American Antiquities Act of 1906
National Historic Preservation Act
Archaeological and Historic Preservation Act of 1974
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washatonian
washatonian
9. RE: arrowheads
Jan 20 2009, 8:38 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2009, 8:38 AM EST
Washington State laws on Archaeology:

Indian Graves and Records (RCW 27.44)
Archaeological Sites and Resources (RCW 27.53)
Archaeological Excavation and Removal Permit (WAC 25-48)
Abandoned and Historic Cemeteries and Historic Graves (RCW 68.60)
Registration of Historic Archaeological Resources on State-Owned Aquatic Lands (WAC 25-46)
Aquatic Lands - In General (RCW 79.90.565)
Archaeological Site Public Disclosure Exemption (RCW 42.56.300)
Discovery of Human Remains (RCW 27.44)
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WilliOfTheValley
WilliOfTheValley
10. RE: arrowheads
Jan 20 2009, 8:39 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2009, 8:39 AM EST
WOW! You really do your homework on the laws of the land. Good work. You & Bill need to put your heads together and make a new thread of the laws. This way for those of us that don't know, will learn from your expertise and knowledge.

Willi
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai
aubreyreynolds9@gmai
11. RE: arrowheads
Jan 20 2009, 9:21 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2009, 9:21 AM EST
"WOW! You really do your homework on the laws of the land. Good work. You & Bill need to put your heads together and make a new thread of the laws. This way for those of us that don't know, will learn from your expertise and knowledge.

Willi"
Good idea. Collection of fossils is also illegal on public lands with the exception of invertebrate fossils (shells, sponges, starfish. sea urchins est} All collecting is forbidden in National Parks and most State Parks, There are some state parks where collecting fossils is permitted (invertebrates only) This means you can go to jail for collecting dinosaur bones, mammals, and fish on public lands. A permit can be obtained for scientific research. I think that Parks should be off limits but National Forest and Bureau of Land Management lands; fossil collecting should be permitted. Most vertebrate are very perishable and deteriate rapidly when exposed to weather. Fossils are abundant and collectors have contributed the bulk of fossils found. With this said I would called a major University if I found a complete T-Rex. Andy we could start a new page. What do you think?
Bill
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washatonian
washatonian
12. RE: arrowheads
Jan 20 2009, 10:25 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2009, 10:25 AM EST
"Andy we could start a new page. What do you think? Bill "

Good idea I believe....formatted as a sub-pg N the National Directory with repetitive referance to the Federal Laws governing these "Treasures of the Land". State laws could be state specific per state...............I suspect there are a number of variations in state laws regulating items of antiquity.
Aman
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai
aubreyreynolds9@gmai
13. RE: arrowheads
Jan 20 2009, 10:44 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2009, 10:44 AM EST
""Andy we could start a new page. What do you think? Bill "

Good idea I believe....formatted as a sub-pg N the National Directory with repetitive referance to the Federal Laws governing these "Treasures of the Land". State laws could be state specific per state...............I suspect there are a number of variations in state laws regulating items of antiquity.
Aman
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That's right. Collecting rules for fossils and rocks vary from state to state.The collecting on a road cuts also varies. Most states allow collecting a road cut if it does not interfer with traffic or is a hazard. In any case the person must be off the shoulder. Interstates are another matter. Stopping is for emergency only.
Bill
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washatonian
washatonian
14. RE: arrowheads
Jan 20 2009, 10:49 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2009, 10:49 AM EST
Indeed...and the amount of increasing intervention and control by big brother continues to expand. Maddening I say just maddening!! with a smile on my face of course.
Aman
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aubreyreynolds9@gmai
aubreyreynolds9@gmai
15. RE: arrowheads
Jan 20 2009, 11:15 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2009, 11:15 AM EST
You are right and if the peoples wishes are not heard in congress the rules will get so tight that is pick a pebble could put you in jail. If we are not vocal. We could see a situation like in some countries where the government controls vast areas of land and the true owners(the citizens) are not allowed on it. That would be a shame. Do you find this valuable?    

pinkey40
16. RE: arrowheads
Jan 20 2009, 12:28 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2009, 12:28 PM EST
Thanks everyone for all the law information, it has helped some. I also checked with the National Forest Commission and the U.S. Geological Servey for the state of Mississippi. They gave me alot of information on the laws also. I definitely ask all permission to enter on any land. Most of my hunts have been on Hunting grounds, or people that I know. I thank all of you for your helpful information and it is a good idea for people to know all the laws surrrounding rockhunting or whatever there nak is. Do you find this valuable?    
aubreyreynolds9@gmai
aubreyreynolds9@gmai
17. RE: arrowheads
Jan 20 2009, 12:51 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 20 2009, 12:51 PM EST
"Thanks everyone for all the law information, it has helped some. I also checked with the National Forest Commission and the U.S. Geological Servey for the state of Mississippi. They gave me alot of information on the laws also. I definitely ask all permission to enter on any land. Most of my hunts have been on Hunting grounds, or people that I know. I thank all of you for your helpful information and it is a good idea for people to know all the laws surrrounding rockhunting or whatever there nak is."
Hope you have fun in your collecting. The river and stream gravel bars are a good source of agates, jaspers, and fossils. Mississippi has material from many states that was washed down your way. Also stop at gravel operations in your area and ask permission to collect. The over sized rejects often contain petrified wood. This applies to any gravel operation in any state. Go to the grizzly where the big pieces are culled.

Bill
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